Posts by Las Malvinas son Argentinas

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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Las Malvinas son Argentinas

How the hell does a grown-ass man let himself be seen in public, much less photographed or filmed, wearing a stupid yellow cap and orange life vest stuck under his massive set of chins, with his big wigged out hair and puffy face poking out?

There is a back story to this, courtesy of Truth Seeker Atheist, AKA Peter Jueck who lives in the Warwick area. This is the guy who, inspired by Lloyd’s rhetoric against certain people, called the police on the Warwick protesters and called them terrorists and aggressive activists. He was a top tier patron, private donor and hard core Cedarite who was with Lloyd on his Warwick “documentary” until he pulled his support after the Thailand scandal broke.

Lloyd was filming this “protest” with Javier Ortiz (another former friend and supporter who has severed ties) for the TTATT documentary. Peter offered him his canoe and drove it to the lake at Warwick. Lloyd was eager to go and shoot footage but Peter informed him it was New York state law that he must wear a life vest at that time of year. Lloyd refused and Peter informed him he could not let him use his canoe for both legal and safety reasons.

So the only reason he’s wearing that was because Peter forced him to. Not wearing the life jacket also would have been an easy way for him to get cited if WT called the authorities to remove Jabba the Hutt from their backyard.

Not wearing a life vest on a canoe was a minor thing compared to say paying women for sex but it was the law. Lloyd probably recognised that he’d look like a fat blob of a fool with that vest on and he was right. Moral of the story I suppose is Peter had morals such as following the law and not wanting to be responsible for an accidental drowning. Lloyd wanted publicity, fame and money. Still does.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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“When I grow up, I want to help Daddy fight the bad men!”

Jessica - your daddy IS one of the “bad men”. When he was telling you this self-indulgent little story, he was concealing the fact he was placing your mummy at risk for STDs by seeing hookers behind her back. He’s a hypocrite and a liar, and you shouldn’t want any of your children to be anything like him.

So he’s indoctrinating his daughter who will have absolutely no JW baggage at all to join him in his crusade. Pretty soon Jessica will be on the payroll and his patrons will need to make sure she has enough for college.

Where and when does this grift end? Answer is it doesn’t, and he’s already preparing the next generation to take his talking points and make a living off of it with a percentage for Dad of course.

No other way to say this - he is a selfish parent to involve her in what he even says is “exJW BS”. What good is a parent is he if he is only going to manipulate them? Sounds like my JW parents. Only he won’t send her door to door.

Of course she will be barred from doing any research of her own, lest she come across anything negative about her daddy. And when she does, he’ll act like a JW parent does when their child finds out about 1975.

”Sweetie, those people were bad ex JWs who were damaged beyond repair and they wanted to hurt daddy because he spoke the truth! Daddy was mean to mummy once but all these things you are hearing is defamation from criminal defendants that daddy has been suing for 10 years now.”

As all JW parents find out the hard way, he’s going to really struggle when his children become more independent and less susceptible to his manipulation. It usually happens when they get friends and partners who can see from the outside that her father is a lying and manipulative asshole.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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Does this guy really deserve to get so much attention on this site ?
Aren`t you just feeding his ego ?

Judging from his public comments, Jabba the Hutt really doesn’t like people talking about him here. Control freaks and narcissists like him insist on controlling the narrative completely.
This is a guy who actually used this pic to attract women for a London dating event:

He cropped out Mark O’Donnell of course, but the man is extremely ugly and looks homeless. He can shed some pounds and bleach his hair, but the ugly person both on the inside and out is very much a frustrated man.

I don’t mind fucking with him. I hope he gets the middle finger loud and clear and should know that this isn’t going to stop. I don’t want him to feel welcome in this community. He’ll feel sorry for himself, despise this community even more than he already does and will have a hard time producing content.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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Someone actually compared him to David Brent in the comments. I am surprised he didn’t remove it.

For those who do not get the reference, to be compared to David Brent is not a compliment. He’s notorious for thinking he has musical talent but when he plays he actually has little and the lyrics are pure rubbish.

https://youtu.be/sEtQj9wuqhs

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

Here’s the rundown so you don’t have to watch if you don’t want to. IMO the lyrics are clunky and not suited for his nasal and baritone singing voice, nor do they tread any new ground. LE actually stole a line from Ben Shapiro at one point - “facts don’t care about your feelings”. He claimed in the beginning that there are no songs about atheism whilst a lot are about God. Actually I can think of one - “God” by John Lennon. I know that’s an impossible standard for a hack like LE to attain, but he would have been better off had he taken inspiration from that song. In Lennon’s song he explained what God was and wasn’t. For him it was a concept where we measure our pain, before going through what he did and didn’t believe in. Lloyd just heads right into this subject tackling it head on with no nuance. He’s essentially making a song about atheism not because he was inspired to do so, but because he wanted to.

Not Your Religion

I lose no sleep if you want to believe what they say
You live in their fantasy
But I've come to see that there is no virtue in faith
Facts just don't care how you feel
God is watching over us
He should beg for what he did
How can you say that he helped you out today
While he was killing 14,000 kids
It's not your religion
There's no man in the sky
It's not your religion
It's you trying not to die
Every God they sold you wasnt true
Everything they promised was a lie
It's not your religion
We're just learning how to fly
Life can be tough
There's no need to heed what I say
Whatever gets you through the week
But some of us want nothing more to do with God much
God messes all that we need
God is watching over us
He's a pridened little man
How can you claim that 6000 years of pain
is a wise and loving master plan
It's not your religion
There's no man in the sky
It's not your religion
It's you trying not to die
Every God they sold you wasn't true
Everything they promised was a lie
It's not your religion
It's just learning how to fly
It's not your religion
It's just learning how to fly

From the applause it sounds like there are 10 to 15 people there. Someone calls out for him to repeat the chorus but didn’t know what the English word for it was. Hi Tibor!

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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I thought Old Goat was also quite argumentative and a little patronising

Of course he was. He even called himself a cranky old man. He was reacting to Lloyd coming out of nowhere and in his first sentence saying that the point he had made in his email to jwfacts had been lost on some.

This was his go-to passive-aggressive insult in the early days- “I don’t think many of you are getting the point I was trying to make” like we’re all stupid and he’s here to teach us. Often the point he was making was of such minor detail - such as WT deleting the flags out of a re-creation of the Cedars Point convention. The point OG was making was why would WT want to put the flags into their new video? It would probably lead to bunch of questions and letters written about the prominence of the flags.

Flags are present at many WT events round the world where they are renting worldly venues. It wasn’t any big deal back then and still isn’t. WT omitting the flags didn’t exactly reek of the cover-up as Lloyd was making it to be, but it was rather one of convenience.

Another interesting thing from that thread was Lloyd employing quite likely the first instance of his “you are making it look bad to doubting JWs” argument - the exact same one he uses today when people are talking about him and what he has done:

For your information I only became firm in my understandings about the society a few weeks ago - and YOU are making this sort of site look bad to a first-timer like me

This post was made in 2011. Now read his account from TRA. Lloyd relates that on New Years Day in 2010 that he wrote his 9 grievances against the WT to his wife where he came to the conclusion that he doubted the WT was God’s organisation and expressed his desire to fade away. It was only until sometime in 2011 that he wrote a formal letter to the elders letting them know he would become inactive. But him being “firm in my understandings” dated to 1/1/2010 at least. Lloyd had just recently publicly stated he was going inactive when he made that post, but he’s misrepresenting himself as someone who had just woken up. That simply wasn’t true. He had been a PIMO for at least 1 1/2 years before and if you read those 9 grievances, you’d know how “firm” he was in those convictions.

But it served his argument well to make the case he was just newly awakened and so he greatly exaggerated and weaponised that to use in a forum argument where he felt he was being attacked.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

Other people being harmed is neither here nor there, what matters is if you’ve insulted his inflated sense of himself.

What I find hilarious is how a self described cranky old man got the best of him in his introduction to the forum and you can just tell how personal Lloyd took it.

Old Goat - Wherever you are - You had “cedars” sized up in just the brief time you engaged with him than what it took years for many to figure out.

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/214208/watchtower-falsification-history?page=3

Here’s a few choice quotes:

Cedars - don't be silly. I no where suggested that he needed my approval for a post. I don't need your approval to express my opinion on this post either. You like this because it gives you a sense of self-justification.

The one who wishes to stifle debate here is you. Not me. You need to reasses just how important this all is to you. If you are seeking a place where only your feelings, wishes and beliefs are reflected, you've come to the wrong forum.

I have the impression that you're fairly young. Hey! Everyone's young as far as I'm concerned. But I mean on the truly youngish side. Do not make life harder than it needs to be. People will always have opinions that differ from ours. That they have contrary opinions does not invalidate our beliefs or ourselves. Why do I suddenly feel like I need to parent you? How silly of me. I wish you well, Cedars. I think you have some hard lessons to learn, and I wish I could make that process easier for you. Unfortunately I cannot.

Cedar, I though you were through with this. Apparently not. If you reasoned as badly as you do here while within the Watchtower organization, you probably had endless anger and never “got” anything right.

Click on the link above to see how Lloyd responded but I think you already know how that went.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

If this is his fan base, good luck to him. Oh how the might have fallen.

You cannot even script this any better. Chastity Queen is a Dominatrix with with an Only Fans link where she sexually humiliates paying customers, and she’s telling him to sue sue sue… because Lloyd got humiliated.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

Ok, so he publicly apologises to Tibor for forgetting his birthday.

This is vintage Lloyd and one of his common methods of hiding his real character.

He knows he is well known (even among his supporters) to never admit he’s wrong. So he chooses a relatively light or even non-existent offence like forgetting Tibor’s birthday and apologises. No one knew or cared about it and he thinks he’s the adult in the room for apologising even though no one really knew he forgot it or even the date of Tibor’s birthday.

He did the same thing with his 3 Feb 2022 FB statement where he “apologises” to Producer Bob for accusing her of hacking his livestream. Then he throws shade at her and claims she was involved in the leak. The apology to PB was just a maneuver to distract from the meat of the livestream admissions. The PB accusation was low hanging fruit and unrelated to what people really were talking about in the aftermath.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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Las Malvinas son Argentinas

…pretend he's a swell family man instead of the reality - someone that abandons them when he wants to visit hookers.

This is precisely what he is doing. He’s been fundraising off of his family for years and has ramped it up since he has gotten exposed. This is coming from a man who actually had the nerve to accuse people of attacking his family in the days following his revelation of embarrassing details of their sexual relationship. His mention of his wife needing a job and possibly being laid off (and by extension his children suffering) was likely responsible for 1/2 of the new patrons if not more joining after that begging video.

The Lloydgate account on Twitter posted all sorts of screengrabs of him tweeting at the Australian govt., Qatar Airlines, KLM and just downright bitching about the possibility of his wife’s visa being delayed and how his family might not join him in Australia. It’s rather important to know what was going on behind the scenes since we now know he would have not minded going without her, perhaps even welcomed it since it would have given him opportunities to seek out sex. But he complained anyway about his wife not going because it fit his narrative that he was so devoted to them.

It is so disingenuous of Jabba the Hutt to keep planting his flag on the myth of him being a “family man”. We also know from that Dijana email that he only interacts with his children when it is on his time and when he desires it. When he’s scrolling dating sites they are simply a nuisance. Even when he does engage he emotionally manipulates them by crying in front of them in order to deflect blame towards their mother.

He’s hardly any benefit to his children. He’s just an emotional parasite.